you'd think they could point to something right?
obviously we're the one true religion".. i can't fathom how anyone of any intelligence would be willing to join up with this org after doing even rudimentary research.. for years they have taught that it's wrong to seek advanced education or to plan for a "worldly" future by trusting in this system of things and then this past sunday the watchtower article rips on people for not planning for the future in regard to their elderly relatives.
maybe if they hadn't been teaching for 100 yr's that the end was "just around the corner" and telling us we'd better believe that fact...or else, we would have planned better for a future that you said without reservation would not even occur.. what mind blowing prediction can they point to that would convince someone "oh yeah..these guys have it right"...?.
End of the gentile times and the subsequent fulfillment of isa 2
As a matter of fact, the WTS did NOT predict the End of the Gentile Times. That was first(?) done by English Adventist John Aquilla Brown in 1823, before Russell was even born, who caluclated they would run from 604 BCE to 1917 CE. Recalculating they would end in 1914 was done by Second Adventist Barbour. The WTS had nothing to do with the origin of any of it. Jehovah 'revealed' it all to the Adventist movement first.
i ran across this recently.
so, i guess its my new favorite quote.
"the difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'.
"I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong".
shower room.
office.
games room.
Marked
tried to get into jw.net twice but a popup informed me that the official website of jw's is jw.org.
this was about 2 hours back.
anybody with a similar experience?.
Just typed jw.net into Google and sure it said, do you mean jw.org? at the top, but after that this site was the first actual site on the list.
Typed it into Yahoo and while jw.org was delivered top of the list, this site was listed second.
Typed it into Dogpile and this site comes out 4th on the list.
Typed it into Lycos and jw.org was top, but this was was next.
Doesn't seem anything conspirtorial here, especially as this site isn't jw.net anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yxineydnky&feature=player_detailpage.
Heresay I tell you!
Maybe - but let's not kid ourselves into thinking that the message of that hearsay is Love, Love, Love.
sometimes this sounds good...but....forever?
forever in a jw idea of perfection?
does this mean no sports, or detective tv shows, or bad neighborhoods?
Why limit this to paradise earth? One could also ask, what would living forever in heaven be like? Sooner or later you’re going to know all the other angels, and I don’t suppose they engage in any sports, or watch detective shows, or have tough projects. This immortal soul thing sucks even more than everlasting life on earth. At least with the latter you can top yourself if you’ve had enough after a few zillion millenniums, if you’re immortal you’re stuffed.
the collapse of large parts of the ice sheet in west antarctica appears to have begun and is almost certainly unstoppable, with global warming accelerating the pace of the disintegration, two groups of scientists reported monday.. the finding, which had been feared by some scientists for decades, means that a rise in global sea level of at least 10 feet may now be inevitable.
the rise may continue to be relatively slow for at least the next century or so, the scientists said, but sometime after that it will probably speed up so sharply as to become a crisis.. this is really happening, said thomas p. wagner, who runs nasas programs on polar ice and helped oversee some of the research.
theres nothing to stop it now.
I wonder if every one on earth drank 1 extra glass of water per day if we could bring down the water level???
How about a glass of beer instead? - I hear it takes about twenty pints of water to make one pint of beer.
sometimes this sounds good...but....forever?
forever in a jw idea of perfection?
does this mean no sports, or detective tv shows, or bad neighborhoods?
- In a paradise everyone gets to do what they want, right? -
In that case, I want to be President. But if we go back to the Garden of Eden state, we won’t be wearing any clothes, so how will anyone know? Perhaps I could get the epaulets tattooed on?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yxineydnky&feature=player_detailpage.
Has she hit it right on the head? It might not be too difficult to love someone who disagrees with your religious/political views, but I find it hard to feel any love for the arsehole who stole by motorbike and wrecked it, and that’s pretty trivial compared to the stuff that’s been done to other people.
I always find it somewhat amusing when Christians espouse that “Love” is the message of Christ, that Love is all you need – they conveniently ignore the other side of Christ, as did Ghandi. “Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword. For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.” (Matt 10:34-35).
Yep, he certainly succeeded in doing that far more effectively than he did in spreading Love.
i have lots and lots of watchtower literature... and i don't know what could be useful in the future to have as a reference or as a keeper.
i am definitely keeping the 1993 and 1994 bound volumes of the awake!
(no, we are not false prophets... down in the same page, the generation of 1914 will not pass... also the youths who put god the watchtower first).
Personally I wouldn't burn it, I wish I had kept all of mine, but I left it with my first wife who's still in, and has probably thrown most of it out anyway. It may be "wall-to-wall BS" but it's one of our best tools in exposing that BS. Imagine if none of it existed anywhere anymore, how would we prove their lies?
